I once saw the use of OR (|) in assignment. $x = $y | $z; Does this use bitwise OR? I'm trying to see if I could use the above expression in place of: $x = is_null($y) ? $z : $y; Jason Karns ~~~~~~~~~~~ The Ohio State University [www.osu.edu] Computer Science & Engineering [www.cse.osu.edu] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php