Re: Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

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2006/8/4, Manuel Lemos <mlemos@xxxxxxx>:

Hello,

on 08/03/2006 05:18 PM Martin Alterisio said the following:
>> Anyway, you may want to read this more in depth reflection of the state
>> of the PHP framework world and recommendations on how to pick what
suits
>> best for you:
>>
>> http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/52-Recommended-PHP-frameworks.html
>
>
> Sorry to intrude with my usual obnoxious behaviour, but this is starting
to
> affect my self-esteem (what's left of it). Am I the only one who has a
> really hard time reading the blog posts in phpclasses.org? Everytime a
> reference to this blog is posted I lose track of the discussion, because
I
> can't really grasp what Lemos is talking about.
>
> I'd like to make some some constructive criticism, not just to Lemos but
to
> the community in general, since I think many of us need to improve our
> writing skills:
>
> 1 - Don't make loooong boooring posts.

This blog in reality is the site monthly announcement newsletter. Some
months there is more to tell than in others. I usually put a list of
contents when the post is about many subjects.


Then maybe you should consider making it a _weekly_ announcement newsletter,
'cause some of those posts are really really too long to digest in only one
shot.

2 - Get to the point. Introduction are great when they are not two pages
> long.

I don't know what you mean by introduction. Usually there is a summary
that goes in the RSS feed that is no longer than 3 or 4 paragraphs.


I mean all the things you need to say before actually getting into what you
want to talk about. Just take for example the post about "recommend php
framework", look how much you have to read before actually get any info
relating directly to php frameworks. Is true that there are many things to
say before about frameworks hype, but couldn't it be explained in less
words?

3 - Stick to the topic. Or use appropiate titles.

> 4 - If the topic is inherently long, use distinguishable headers and
> subheaders. It's a pain in the ass to read a 5 pages long article that
> looks
> the same everywhere, with no easy way to know what is the subtopic of
what
> are you reading now.

As I said, these posts often cover many topics. It may not seem by topic
sections use titles. The problem is that this newsletter posts used to
go by e-mail to the site subscribers in plain text, so there was no way
to format titles.


I was unaware of that, I understand now. It's really a pain in the ass to
format a text only email for proper reading.... even more if the same text
has to be used in a website.

Anyway, now that you mentioned it I applied an additional regular
expression to add title formatting when presenting it in the site. Just
let me know if it looks ok now.


Yeah, I saw that. I believe it's a little bit better now.

5 - Don't talk so much about your life! You can always make another blog
> for
> that... Unless your personal experience can bring an unique insight of
the
> point you're trying to make.

I suppose you may be talking about other peoples blogs. Personal blogs
are supposed to be personal. This is the PHPClasses site blog. Usually
it covers matters about the site developments and matters of interest to
the site users. It does not talk about my life. It may talk about my
experience when it is relevant to the post topic.


Generally speaking, yes, I'm talking about other peoples blogs. I'm sick
tired of all the holy crusades out there, specially when it comes to
Web2.0evangelists. You may have not noticed it but somewhere here or
there you let
your subconcious write for you, specially on the topic of Web2.0 (I used the
term twice already, please stop me before I have to pay royalties to
O'reilly). It may be just an adjective, but that's all it takes to make a
mildly objetive point of view turn into a completely subjective point of
view.

Just check your article about "is php ready for ..." *that thing I said
before*, and you'll see that how, without noticing it, personal feelings
tend to appear and change the article completely. Probably that's what made
you write so much about how you believe phpclasses.org is a *that term*
enabled site, and why. Was all that really necesary for the purpose of the
article? Or you were just uncounciously trying to prove something to all
those lamers out there? Does it really matter if your site is "in" or "out"?
We are not fashion designers...

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