Arno Kuhl wrote: > I'm not so sure if the botanist wasn't saying in a rather confused way that > he was playing on the same side as PHPClasses, even if he did profess to be > in the other team. Did he say he was rolling his own (in a way only > botanists can do) or not? that's beside the point - manuel tried to have his cake and eat when he a, stated writing everying yourself was preferable and b, Java was better because they have standardized APIs for framework development allowing people to switch between frameworks. besides which manuel's 'article' is crap, rob's assessment of it was pretty spot on (and it's not the first time manuel has plugged the 'article'). in the end evilMe(tm) was just fanning the flames. ;-> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jochem Maas [mailto:jochem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 03 August 2006 12:37 > To: Paul Scott > Cc: Robert Cummings; Manuel Lemos; php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion > > > PHPClasses 0 - Botanist 1 > > :-) > > Paul Scott wrote: >>> You mean we should all be happy that so much choice is available! >>> >> I agree with Rob! I am a botanist. I have never been trained in Computer >> Science, as far as "industry" is concerned, I am not qualified to turn >> on a PC. Fortunately for me, I am also a geek. My PHP experiences >> started when running experiments in my wet labs, monitoring seaweed >> growth. If PHP did not allow me to get away with writing "newbie" (read >> bad) code, I would have given up and just done it the old way that >> botanists have been doing it for centuries. >> >> PHP gave me that freedom to start, and as a result, I now am a >> reasonably decent PHP developer, and run a collaborative network in 16 >> (and growing) African countries working on a PHP framework that I >> designed and wrote. Go figure. >> >> Choice is that important. If I had started with JDBC or a Java based way >> of doing things, this stuff would have never happened. Frameworks are >> not only pieces of software, but create communities of like minded >> people. They also build skills (and business opportunities) as ours >> does. If there were no choice, we would all be VB style drones with no >> creativity and no forward movement. >> >> Please direct flames to file 13. >> >> --Paul >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
