You guys make me laugh... :)
(And I really actually mean that in a nice way... that last bit was
quite funny. And yes, size does matter... some don't like it _too_
big.)
But, I digress.
I'm OK with taking this off-list... though I'd rather publicly reply.
Yeah, I meant procedural, not functional. Chalk one up to another
stupid mistake.
Also, realize, I'm not saying that we change PHP tomorrow... hell, we
don't even necessarily have to change PHP... I'm saying we think about
our philosophies and take these agile philosophies into view when we
consider making changes to PHP and designing our own applications.
Yes, I'm aware performance is a huge deal: I'm OK with developers
spending 90% of their time on performance tweaking and 10% on new
thinking... I don't want changes to hurt the people... that's
definitely not human-centric!
I like some stuff, and I know that what I like a lot of people don't
like (such as everything-as-objects). My ideas aren't to deface PHP...
Everything-as-objects in a transparent manner. Yeah, 5->length won't
be too useful, but ['one', 'two', 'three']->length would be, as well
as "strings with "->replace('/with/', 'as') objects... And of course,
other ways would work as well...
Hey, you know, that's just how I prefer... I like seeing numbers as
numbers with their own properties, same as strings and arrays, et al.
Hey, I know I'm weird, but I think I'm right.
But let me recenter that thought again... I'm not saying that we have
to change the language now, if ever: it's about our philosophies.
I mean, where did our changes come from anyways? Some crazy guy came
in and made suggestions that opened up new ways of thinking or at
least new ideas, maybe inspiring the current iteration we use today.
I'm hoping to act as a catalyst, even if just a little bit of movement
is made.
As far as the funeral goes, I'm not saying that PHP is on the crash
course either. I used that metaphor because I think that the way we
think about our language will become too strict or cemented to be
willing to make changes necessary to keep PHP alive: it will become as
hard to move within the community as the Titanic.
As far as AJAX is concerned: yeah, it's a bitch. I've gotten it to
work pretty cleanly in a newer project of mine with little
discrepencies, and, hopefully, if what I've been doing is good enough,
I might write about it (but we all know how well that goes over,
haha).
With all of the comments and all, I've lost track if there were any
others I wanted to make. Ah well, I'm sure you're more the happier for
me to stop (as am I, at this point).
I do want to say "Thank you" for your responses: I did want responses
and, eventually, I got some meaty responses! All the while, we were
thinking about things, which is good. That's the best way to start.
Oh, before I go... I want to echo the fact that AJAX and Web 2.0 are
not the same... AJAX is a tool, Web 2.0 (or Agile development) is a
philosophy.
M.T.
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