[snip] That's interesting -- not meaning any disrespect, and this is just an opinion -- but in the newly published "PHP Phrasebook" by Christian Wenz (an excellent book btw), he says: "Another phrase I promise you will not find in this book is anything that looks like foo, bar, baz, or any other proofs of very little imagination." While you may not agree with his statement, but I personally don't like the use of terms like those for I find them confusing. I would much rather like to see real world examples. From there I can make the translation to what I want. But using terms like $foo just adds another level of abstraction for me understand. But, I'm also simple. [/snip] I have been programming since the mid 70's and foo was in the lexcon at that point. I guess I am old school. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php