[snip] That's the reason when I started this thread I made it clear that I was NOT talking about a relational dB but rather a simple flat file. What I find interesting in all of this exchange -- however -- is that everyone agree's renumbering the "id" of a dB is something you don't do, but no one can come up with a concrete (other than relational) reason why. [/snip] Tedd, several here, including me, have said that if you have only a single table database that renumbering is OK, just not a preferred practice. (BTW, you never answered my question about this being a flat file database or single table, although I have figured it out now.) Renumber to your heart's content. If your users are allowed delete privileges (ACK!) and you don't want to confuse them, go ahead and renumber. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php