[snip] >They are all variants of that. All nifty little tools. We should gather >those up someplace...shouldn't we? In similar light, what development environments do you people program in? How do you run and test your code? tedd PS: This is my first posting to this group. [/snip] Welcome to the insanity. I use Eclipse. For testing I have a test server where all of the code gets hammered using a combination of automated and live user units. I am in a microsoft shop, but have migrated web app servers to Apache (save for one that I just cannot get rid of yet due to legacy ASP). -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php