[snip] Wow, that should fail. But you did have use var_dump() to get it, which may be slightly counter-intuitive. I just did this.... function realRand($x){ $x = $x * rand(5,10); return $x; } define("RANDOM", realRand(1.2)); var_dump(RANDOM); and it returns floats. Well, I'll be jiggered. [/snip] >From http://us3.php.net/manual/en/language.constants.php "Only scalar data (boolean, integer, float and string) can be contained in constants." -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php