[snip] > It would be foolish (and would fail anyhow) to do something like this; Nope. :P <?php define("RANDOM", rand(5,12)); var_dump(RANDOM); ?> int(12) [/snip] Wow, that should fail. But you did have use var_dump() to get it, which may be slightly counter-intuitive. I just did this.... function realRand($x){ $x = $x * rand(5,10); return $x; } define("RANDOM", realRand(1.2)); var_dump(RANDOM); and it returns floats. Well, I'll be jiggered. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php