Andy Pieters wrote:
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 08:37, Pugi! wrote:
My webhost doesn't want to upgrade to PHP5 because of security reasons and
some scripts that will mallfunction. I find it hard to believe. Current
upgrade to php5 == "scripts that will mallfunction" == support calls == losing money.
thats how I see the ISPs view of upgrading to php5, regardless of
whether they are right for them it seems to be a simple matter of
economics and operational stability. you also have to consider the ammount of
work involved is purely performing the upgrade properly.
conf of webhost is PHP 4.3.11, Apache 1.3.33 and MySQL 3.23.49.
What real reasons could there be not to upgrade ?
How could I convince them to upgrade to PHP5 ?
(Less important for me : but why not upgrade to Apache 2.x and at least
MySQL 4.x ?)
1. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
PHP4 _is_ broken in places. if it was perfect then there would be no need
for improvement.
2. PHP 4 has proven its worth. Now that PHP 5 came out, there will be tons of
bugs that aren't found yet.
rather defeatist attitude, and a point that cannot be truely substantiated. besides
there is a point when it becomes too difficult to successfully enchance or add features
to something (move forward) and you have to start 'fresh'.
3. PHP 5 *WILL* break some scripts, and most big suits like forums and shops
and stuff will need a serious amount of work to convert to php 5
and some scripts are broken. there is a lot of code out there that is technically
evil (potential segfaults etc) so this cuts boths ways.
besides most apps [forums etc] out there arn't hard at all to convert -
the problem for the developers of such apps is more likely to be about releasing
versions that run on both (which is more difficult) or maintaining 2 releases, which
eat into your time.
Same applies for Apache and MySQL.
Consider this, NASA still uses 386 cpu's in their space equipment because they
are a lot more stable and mission secure then newer chipsets.
are you sure its not because they have invested so much time and energy into
the hardware, software and procedures surrounding the cpus. refitting a space
shuttle is not done on a whim like your changing the cpu in the box under
your desk... comparitive stability wirth newer models doesn't factor in at all
if you consider that every part on a space shuttle could be assumed to only be
authorized for use after it's absolute stability has been proven.
HTH
Andy
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