If you need this functionality then you should go back to PHP 4 the version that worked for you. I also have problems with this and winmgmts object. some classes work others don't, most times it's a VARIANT type problems. I know Wez is really busy but if you keep checking the snap shots you will see he is fixing things as they come in. A good idea is to check bugs.php.net before upgrading as it will help determine if a update is a wise decision! Sonia -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php