Re: Quick Poll: PHP 4 / 5

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On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 00:14, Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
> leaf wrote:
> > 
> > Actually I choose array_pop for 2 reasons.
> > I like short code. I don't want to read thousands of lines just to get 
> > an idea. I tend to think in very compact code. if you find that ugly and 
> > unreadable. that's your preference. I find extended coding very ugly, 
> > mostly because I'm a slow reader, and that is my preference
> 
> And what about someone else that has to read/maintain your code in the 
> future? What about when you come to read a "clever" but compact line of 
> code that does 5 or 6 things on a single line, a few years down the 
> track, and spend valuable time just trying to figure out what it 
> actually does?
> 
> > I got use to working with pop and shift while I was doing perl work. so 
> > to me pop'ing an array makes perfect sense.
> 
> Sure, when there actually *is* an array to pop. In the following 
> situation there is no array to actually pop (remove and return) the last 
> element from, since you're using the return value of explode() while 
> array_pop() expects a reference to a variable:
> 
> $element = array_pop( explode( ',', $some_string ) );

Ahhh but there is an array to pop, returned arrays are still containers
and generally follow the semantics of declared containers (obscure
segfault bugs notwithstanding).

Personally I find:

    $element = array_pop( explode( ',', $some_string ) );

More readable than:

    list( $element ) = explode( ',', $some_string );

But that's because I find assigning to something that looks like a
function disconcerting :)

Maybe what we really need is:

    //
    // First parameter should be a reference and will be altered to
    // reflect the popping of the substring separated by the separator.
    // The second parameter is the separator to use, comma is defaulted
    // but we set it explicitly for readability ;)
    //
    $element = str_pop( $some_string, ',' );

Of course, as soojn as you do that, you know someone will do the
following:

    $element = str_pop( $some_part1.$some_part2, ',' )

Or even worse (teehee):

    $element = str_pop( implode( ',', $some_array ) )

Cheers,
Rob.
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