Blimey! I'm not a regular to these lists so I certainly didn't expect replies from two names I recognise and respect from my years of trawling the internet for valuable PHP and CSS information! The books you both recommend look like exactly what I am after, with the slight caveat that I am actually using PHP4 at work and these books seem to focus on PHP5. I appreciate the real improvements PHP5 has over PHP4 with regards to OO but I have been a little hesitant to make the leap. Perhaps now I will do so. I've also been toying with a subscription to PHP Architect since it first came out. It felt a bit to advanced for me back then but maybe now I'm ready for it. Congrats Marco - I think you've bagged a new subscriber! (I've had StyleMaster for a short while now so you've already done your work John!) Thanks John and Marco for your swift replies, I'll be sure to check out those books. Alex On 17/08/05, Marco Tabini <marcot@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello Alex > > On 8/17/05 9:33 AM, "Alex Gemmell" <agemmell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend some books that describe: > > - how to plan OO projects (PHP specific would be good but isn't necessary) > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590593804/qid=1124289801/sr=8 > -4/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-9475507-6895034?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 > > > - OO design patterns for web applications > > http://www.phparch.com/shop_product.php?itemid=96 > > (disclaimer: I work for the company that published this book). > > HTH, > > > Marco > > > > > Thanks for helping me become a better programmer! > > > > Alex > > > > -- Alex Gemmell |:| agemmell@xxxxxxxxx |:| -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php