Hello Bruno, Thursday, July 7, 2005, 7:04:44 PM, you wrote: BBBM> I've read the manual, and the ADOdb Date package functions, and BBBM> I am not using this because I want to keep my framework simple, BBBM> flexible, and fast. BBBM> Well, I just want a simple way to translate dates (I know what BBBM> is the input format) to unix timestamp, with ability to do this BBBM> with dates before 1970, and after 2023, is there any way? Personally I'd use the Pear Date package. It's stable, well formed and will do exactly what you require: http://pear.php.net/package/Date Even if you don't like the thought of using it - you can always pour over the source code to look at their methods and see how they handle it. Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services "I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them." - Isaac Asimov -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php