Hello Jochem, Wednesday, June 29, 2005, 2:13:21 PM, you wrote: JM> anybody here know what the logic is behind constant() triggering a JM> warning if the named constant is not found? JM> <? JM> $cnst = "DEBUG"; JM> // what I want to do but can't JM> if ($dbg = constant($cnst)) { JM> // do stuff JM> } JM> // the only real option, it seems - bit long winded to get round a stupid (IMHO) JM> if (defined($cnst) && ($dbg = constant($cnst))) { JM> // do stuff JM> } Isn't the warning coming from the fact that $cnst isn't defined, rather than coming from the constant() function itself? Best regards, Richard Davey -- http://www.launchcode.co.uk - PHP Development Services "I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them." - Isaac Asimov -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php