[snip] .... [/snip] The thing is that the OP asked such a broad question. How many answers are there to the question that he asked? I have taught entire semesters with less broad questions. And you're right...RTFM doesn't always work, but would come back with, "I RTFM and I still don't understand how foo($x, $b) works. Would someone explain it to me please?" If you're scared to ask because you might get an RTFM it is your loss. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php