Hey, The end of the world is at hand.... how do I know this? coz my mom wants her own site! My mom; the person who hated computers coz "those 'things' are too damn complicated"! Anyway, thought I'll do it for her to kind of repay a bit of carrying me for whole 9 months, and tough delivery etc etc..dont know if its true coz I cant remember, but am taking her word for it... She wanted a small site with a forum on it, no problem there...I made it for her using one of the free forums that members of this list suggested (thanks!) and now she has around 35 members so she wants a design to go with it instead of just going directly to the forum. Yesterday was her B'day so am doing it now :-p I had a real good flash header which she too liked, so I modified the header and she really liked it, problem is, its around 230kb to load, so I thought I'll put it in a frame (top frame -> header, bottom frame-> content and forum) so the flash part won't reload on each page request. Since its a forum and she is not doing any advertising its important the search engines index the site properly or shes going to have a big forum with no visitors. Then I read that the search engines dont like frames much....so I was thinking of using iframes and then I read about the "evils" of iframes...so I thought I'll ask you guys for your opinions/suggestions as I'm dead outa ideas and a bit confused...any alternate ideas too would be appreciated. Thanks and have a great weekend. Cheers, Ryan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/2005 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php