I missed the original post, but if you're looking at doing Windows desktop development and want a GREAT alternative to GTK, definitely check out Winbinder! Rubem and crew have done an awesome job (even though he modestly calls it an "alpha" release.. it's very function). It's a native Windows API wrapper for PHP.. so you have access to all the familiar Windows. http://www.hypervisual.com/winbinder/index.php = = = Original message = = = [pardon me for my poor english] What you want to do? If you just want to be a desktop applications programmer, i dont think learning PHP-GTK be a good way to produce them (learning a language like PHP that is specialized in web environment for desktop programming colud not be a good idea) but if you want to be a web programmer too, it's here you could use PHP-GTK with the most TRUST! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php