Hi Rene, I am becoming a little bit concerned about some of the advice you have been getting about setting a rate for your work. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with charging by the hour, but a lot of times one of two things happen, either you begin to resent your customer or they begin to resent you. I have another method for you to consider about pricing/costing your work. Try basing your fee on value. If someone wants a one page site then you look at how long it will take and ask them a few questions about what they want to get out the page. If the client believes that the single page would be the most inportant part of their interaction with their audience (I'm being intentionally extreme here) then would you feel right about only charging 50$ for it? Personally I would be looking at charging 500$ or even more. Another thing to think about where figuring out your rate is what your time is actually worth. A trimmined down version of how I have determined my rate in the past is as follows: My desired salary: 60,000$ Hours to work per year: 2000h Now start subtrating from hours to determine billable hours. Minus: Vacation time(3 weeks @ 40h/week): 120h Overhead time(accounting and such 4h/month): 48h Networking/Marketing time (figure about 1/3 of your time): 600h Sick Days(everyone gets sick eventually): 40h You also have expenses: Overhead (space to rent, cd or dvds, computers, hosting, etc): 20,000$ Advertising(brochures, cards, etc): 3000$ Determine sales needed for the year: Salary + expenses: 83,000$/year Determine billable hours (Total hours - Vac time, sick time, etc): 2000h - 120-48-600-40 = 1192h (actual time you can spend doing what you do) Rate to charge: Needed sales/billable hours 83,000$/1192h = 70$/h Use that number as a base, initially add 20% more time to your time estimates and find out what the client is willing to pay and charge them that or a little more, they will pay you more. HTH, David --- -{ Rene Brehmer }- <steelrodent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi gang > > Sorry for asking this question here, but I don't > know where else to ask. > And Goole'ing didn't help me much. > > My father-in-law has a friend in Alaska (and I'm in > Canada) that needs a > website done. Not sure what kinda site he wants done > yet, or how much he > needs me to do for him (like webspace, domain > hosting, domain registration, > and such) but for now I've been asked what it'd cost > to get it done. > > I'm assuming it's something pretty simple, since > it's just for a motorcycle > club, but he wants a price first ... > > What do y'all charge when you do sites for people > ??? ... In the past I've > only done pro-bono work (because they usually don't > require much work, so > it's not a problem getting it done while working on > other projects), but > I've never actually done paid work before... It's > more that I just recently > moved to Canada (from Denmark) so I have no feeling > with what the prices > and rates are overhere ... > > > TIA > > Rene > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php