Hi Mikey,
you writing is very balanced, nicely put... I very much agree with the position you take/have (maybe my OP didn't put it quite so clearly ;-)
but you write that Dan probably agrees that (any) exploitation (that occurs) is a bad thing... a logical assumption.... now read this a weep (it a offlist reply from Dan to a reply of mine to his reply original reply to my OP), It really shows what a kind, caring guy Dan is:
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I do understand your points. Being in this industry, you're not the first person who I've met that dislikes the idea of what I do. There's nothing more that I can do aside from telling you to, well basically, fuck off. I see people like you on a daily basis, and unfortunately they confront me about the "situation". Most of the time I kindly just ignore them.
I do what I do because I understand the market, the Webmasters, and the customers. I have a wonderful company. My employees like what they do. I like what I do. I love it. If you are trying to tell me that I'm a bad person for making a buck off of some slut who needs to pay rent for a month, then so be it. I don't care. I only host these sites and make sure that they stay online. I don't have to deal with any of the "models". I could give two shits and a giggle what they go through. It was their choice to result to pornography - not mine. I could, again, give two shits and a giggle what society thinks of them, myself, or my business. It would be silly and foolish to try to change the minds of anyone that has anything to do with this industry. The same level of foolishness that you are suggesting by telling me that I am a bad person...
The best I can tell you is to ignore what you don't like, because your views, as extensive and expressive as they are, will always fall on deaf ears. I'm sorry.
With that being said, I cannot continue this conversation. I would continue it if my time was worth it and you did not take an offensive manner to the situation.
Good luck with your church.
Thanks -dant </quote>
Mikey wrote:
[snip everything irrelevant]
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think it makes them bad people. I also happen to know that not all pr0n is
about exploitation. Some is, of course, and I'm sure that even Dan would
agree that this is not good - if anyone had bothered to find out in the
first place.
...
I don't think that this is an issue that is specific to pr0n. Sure, the first thing that we think of when we hear a traded login is actually pr0n, but it is most definately not limited to this arena.
I appreciate the kind words mentioned by Jochem and Mikey. They see through the whole stereotypical "I have a username and password" thing and understand the true technical reasoning behind my question.
To address Mikey's question - I am not looking for a way to uniquely identify users. For one, it's just not possible. On top of that, the vast majority of members with to stay anonymous for reasons that I am not even going to begin to state on this list, because we all know where that will end up.
I am trying to ensure that one login and one password are specific to one client. Several methods of this include making sure that not more than two IPs use a specific login/password throughout a pre-set threshold, and on top of this, the automatic blocking of IPs that attempt brute-force style attacks. These two items alone would be an invaluable tool in the assurance that logins and passwords are not abused.
Thanks again -dant
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