I often use this type of construct $cmd = $_POST['cmd']; if ($cmd == null) { // do default but this throws a notice if the ['cmd'] index is not defined. ugly. using if (isset($_POST['cmd'] ) { $cmd = $_POST['cmd']; } seems lengthy. is there a way around this? i tried using $cmd = @ $_POST['cmd']; to suppress errors but didnt seem to have ay effect. tx. -- _______________________________________________ David "DC" Collier mobile business creator ïãããããããããããããããã dc@xxxxxxxxxx skype: d3ntaku http://www.pikkle.com +81 (0)90-7414-6107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php