Re: 7 new photographs in May 21, 2023 installment of PF gallery

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I have been thinking ever since AI has made it on to the big screen that anything I print should have a three character abbreviation after the signature.  Since everything I do in PS CS6 is done manually HMA  (human made Art) is one of the abbreviation I have considered..


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From: Pini Vollach <pinimage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: clenchedteethphotography@xxxxxxxx; PhotoForum educational network <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, May 24, 2023 3:38 am
Subject: Re: 7 new photographs in May 21, 2023 installment of PF gallery

I raise the glove - Absolutely not art !
The only occasion that it might be is while the artist (human) ask for something revolutionary and use the AI “only” as a tool, but even then I am not sure.
Trevor gave the machine “instructions” but isn’t the machine can generate a topic by itself and upload the income to this Gallery for example ?
In this case, do we call all those millions of photos  “Art”?
One can say: The tool is not important, the outcome is. I accept this as an art when human use the tool, not a cat and not a machine which do what it wants.
Art is a some kind of ingeniusity or ingenuity of a human mind. One of its virtues is innovation, doing something never done while knowing why you do it, what you have to say by it etc’.  Do we accept such a deep thinking to a machine ?
Sorry, Trevor, I appreciate you as an artist but (Meanwhile,) I do not appreciate a machine as artist although I can admire the good job it did.


Pini

> On 24 May 2023, at 8:58, Kostas Papakotas <clenchedteethphotography@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> well trevor, interesting and stunning work there!
> Photography will be facing another uphill battle for its recognition as art, but I think you nailed the question.
> It has always been about the means to, but not only that. Creativity is the other part.
> Your imagination took this photo from being a graphic illustration of something to a real photograph.
> Good job!
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> Στις Κυριακή, 21 Μαΐου 2023, 07:17:49 μ.μ. EEST, ο χρήστης Andrew Davidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxx> έγραψε:
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> Trevor Cunningham
> Ulawatu Temple (Bali)
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