Sounds good to me. You can print on the same stuff we use to make digital negatives when we do palladium printing. One side has coating to adhere the printer ink. You would just mount the negative on the window; no one will be looking at it from outside, and it will be a positive from inside the greenhouse. Sticking it on the glass will need some kind of tape/adhesive.
Another method, needing extra steps, is then to transfer the image onto any other rigid material. There are many transfer techniques; do an online video search.
But I just had a thought. When I described my experience with the negative/positive effect, it was black and white. So light either came in or was blocked, or in between. But color? Either get some other advice or just do a test yourself. I have a hunch -- but that won't do.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:17 AM, Jonathan Turner <pictures@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,So to explain it with a little more context, the idea is to display images taken in an allotment, as a 'pop up' exhibition (on the allotment where the pictures were made...). That means the exhibition needs to be weather proof, so after having thought about ways to do this (printing as vinyl banners etc) I had this idea of displaying them in a greenhouse. I liked the idea as it seemed appropriate to the subject matter.So, I wondered if I could print the images onto some kind of translucent surface which could be stuck onto the windows of the greenhouse. Initially I thought of just printing inkjet onto acetate, then I thought about duratrans. I also wondered if it would be possible to print onto some kind of clear vinyl that would be self adhesive so that I could easily stick them to the window panes of the greenhouse. Size of the panes could range between 8 inches to 23 inch square, depending on the kind of greenhouse.I imagined the greenhouse to work as a giant lightbox (at least from inside, not sure whether it would work from both sides). Sounds like a slightly crazy idea and not completely sure it would work, but interested to know if anyone has prior experience.Thanks,Jonathan
Jonathan turnerPhotographerT: 07796470573--Sent from my iPhoneI should have asked: on what size and thickness are you printing?On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Jan Faul <jan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Duratrans and similar is translucent and is the material to use. Despite Yoram’s comment, do not use glass. Just try putting a piece of 4x8’ quarter inch thick glass up as a display. The first problem is its weight, not that it is breakable.Furthermore, try to imagine what could happen if Abu Nidal decided to hijack your image. It won’t fly any better on glass than it would as a ferry. I’m sure engineers have other ideas, but a sheet of tempered glass would shatter into a million itty-bitty pieces while still on the runway. If you lab (if you have one) has no ideas, get in touch with duggal.com in NYC.On Apr 27, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Randy Little wrote:Duratrans is for direct back lighting or ambient lighting. There are lots of options though. You lab will have samples
On Apr 27, 2014 3:03 PM, "YGelmanPhoto" <ygelmanphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I don't know if it's relevant in your case, but when an image is printed on glass it behaves differently, depending on the position of the light source. It behaves as you expect, as a positive image when using reflected light, but behaves as a negative when using transmitted light. (FWIW, I could not believe this, in my gut, until I tried it myself.) So if you want to look at it using transmitted light, you have to print the negative on the glass.You'll have to be pretty clever and use some sophisticated setup if you want to have the image look the same from both sides.Also, I recommend glass rather than some flexible material.Again, just my take,-yoramOn Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Jonathan Turner <pictures@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
quick question to those who may know; I want to print some images to be displayed on glass, so they are visible from both sides of the glass (the images will be exhibited in a greenhouse). What material should I be looking to print it on? Would it be acetate, or Duratrans? And does such a material come as self adhesive? I'm thinking of the kind of stuff you sometime see window graphics displayed on...
Any advice appreciated.
cheers,
Jonathan.
Art Faul
