Re: If you shoot models

[wpettit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

That was one of my favorite movies when I was punishing myself for deciding to become an engineer.  I think I have it on DVD in a box in the basement.  

Bill

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From: Jan Faul
Sent: Mar 25, 2013 9:17 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: If you shoot models

Having an equally warped sense of humor I would advise against shooting models with anything other than a long lens. Don’t do a ‘David Hemmings’ in Blowup. Skinny women and very wide lenses do not mix.

I had to shoot fashion to see what  all the hoopla was about, and while I’m not sorry I did, I’m also not sorry I no longer shoot fashion.

Jan

On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:05 PM, wpettit@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Having a very warped sense of humor, I would suggest one beware of shooting models---they might shoot back!

Bill

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jan Faul 
Sent: Mar 25, 2013 9:01 PM 
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students 
Subject: Re: If you shoot models 

I shot a few Ford models when I shot Scandihoovian fashion a long long time ago. Dealing with buyers and clothing mavens was so nerve-wracking I had to give it up - they wanted every line of stitching to be lit and I didn’t think I was shooting still life. The better the model the more relaxed I felt as they would not knowingly screw something up. On a shoot in Sweden, I realized that although I thought I was the talent, the women were each earning three times what I was making. 

There we were in the land of tall blonde Swedes posing nearly naked women in furs, stockings and heels in snow and all the models were American. They liked being able to talk to the photographer without going through a translator. That was hard work and okay, the models were mostly nice, but... some complained almost constantly.

Jan

On Mar 25, 2013, at 8:38 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

On 2013-03-25 18:38, Randy Little wrote:

The do.   but models don't get to pick who shots them.   I have lots of

stories from being an assistant about how models where treated even when

not being treated badly.   Unless they are a super model they are a

product.   Not to treat them badly but they are just there to hold the

dress up or canvas the make up or wear the shoe.   The bigger the shoot

complexity the more they are a commodity.   Smaller the shoot the better

they are treated.

Makes sense, and my first-hand experience is with very small shoots.

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