Re: PF members exhibit on NOV 5, '11 Church interiors

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To begin, I am as counter-religious as they come. Growing up, I would watch my father take great joy and liberty with physically removing proselytizers from our doorstep...so, my background should tend to turn my nose up at such images. However, I completely agree with Michael. Structures of this magnitude, irrespective of purpose, demand respect. When you add the volume of craftsmanship involved, they become works of art. When you add the faith and the community required to raise them and keep them standing, they become social movements. Cathedrals, mosques, temples (pagan, judaic, buddhist, and otherwise), etc, are testimonies to history. Built from/during times of peace or blood, they are exceptionally fascinating places.

Take the mosque-turned cathedral in Cordoba, Spain. Or the Hagia Sophia (and the Blue Mosque across the street) in Istanbul, Turkey. Or Baalbeck in Lebanon...the pharaonic works in Egypt...Petra in Jordan and the Nabataen tombs in Meda'in Saleh, Saudi Arabia...Angkor Wat and its surrounding temples...Persian abandonments...Borges'/City of the Immortals/. Each, in their own right, a work of art, and worthy of documentation.

I completely fail to see any hypocrisy in photographing places of worship. Even the violent history of houses of worship being converted to different faiths suggest a sort of, "Wow! Cool building!" attitude from invading armies. I suppose there are symbolic and political tones that cannot be ignored in this observation...but still, if anything, I think taking an effective image of such a place is a marvelous photographic challenge.

On 11/7/11 1:36 AM, MichaelHughes7A@xxxxxxx wrote:
In a message dated 06/11/2011 11:39:56 GMT Standard Time, palcewski@xxxxxxxxx writes:

    somehow the less-religious viewer is somehow obliged to treat these
    pictures with a sort of reverence or approval that other subject
material does not. As a lifelong Roman Catholic, presently living in a city which has one of the largest collections of medieval church buildings in Britain, and a chorister in a Gothic style cathedral that was built a mere 100 years ago I am in no position to contradict Mr Palcewski if he tells us what his personal feelings are when confronted by images of church interiors. I would suggest however that he is unlikely to be able to offer us a consensus of the views of all the 'less religious' in these circumstances. Respect is demanded by those responsible for such buildings, of all users, and often there are bans or restrictions on photography. Even in circumstances like weddings with a photographer commissioned to record the event there may be restrictions imposed. All users of the cathedral or church facilities are entitled to respect for their privacy. Great works of art, however defined, be they images or constructs, demand our respect both for the effort that went into them and the end result. Many sculptures for instance are amazing examples of craft as well as depicting something of beauty. Cathedrals demand awe and respect for what they are, (their purpose), for how the building has been achieved, for the lives of all who played some part in the continual building and maintenance processes which ensured their survival through the centuries. In this respect they are similar to mosques, synagogues and ancient temples. In contemporary life in Norwich the RC and Anglican cathedrals are places of welcome available to all, irrespective of their state of belief or unbelief. They can provide an oasis of calm for those whose life is in turmoil or can be a place of reinforcement of belief in the company of like minded people. For the less philosophically inclined all major religious buildings are monuments to all 'who put their money where their mouth was'
Michael



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