RE: making a pinhole

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The body cap is pretty thick.  I would expect a lot of reflections
inside the hole causing a foggy look.  

Also, the long (relatively) hole might cause the image to be constrained
to a small circle in the middle of the sensor.  Think of drilling a hole
in a wall.  Look out through the hole, and move side to side.  You'll
only be able to see a tiny bit of the outside.

Now, drill the same sized hole in a sheet of paper.  Move side to side.
Now you can see a much wider area of the outside.

This is all theory.  Please let us know how this works out.  I'm curious
to hear more.

Tim

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 21:31 +0000, Christopher Strevens wrote:
> Hi.
> 
>  
> 
> When I made a pinhole camera many years ago, I used copper strip that
> was very thin and placed that over an open  box made of cardboard and
> pushed a dressmakerâs pin through the copper in the middle.
> 
>  
> 
> I used printout paper as the sensitive material then used it as a
> paper negative after soaking it in thin machine oil. 
> 
>  
> 
> I developed it and fixed it normally.
> 
>  
> 
> Did you know a film may be developed by rubbing with a human thumb?
> 
>  
> 
> As with the box pin hole camera the results are awful.
> 
>  
> 
> I also made photographs using copper plates. I cleaned the copper
> plate with acetone then washed it with hydrochloric acid washed with
> distilled water then dried with acetone.
> 
>  
> 
> It was then exposed to light using a lens and a window.
> 
>  
> 
> I then plated it with silver by putting it in silver nitrate solution.
> It was washed then rinsed with hydrochloric acid and washed again and
> then gold plated with gold chloride solution.
> 
>  
> 
> I then washed it with distilled water.
> 
>  
> 
> All I got was an image of the window in silver and gold.
> 
>  
> 
> Later I took a conventional black and white image and exposed the
> copper plate with an enlarger.
> 
>  
> 
> Eventually I made an image in silver and gold of an unclothed young
> women.
> 
>  
> 
> Then I was attacked.
> 
>  
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 07 February 2011 15:07
> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
> Subject: RE: making a pinhole
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Well I have a drill press and tools so what I was planning to do is
> drill the hole directly into the body cap, but don't know if I can
> find a bit that small after hearing the discussions.  Taking it into
> the body cap would give a good clean hole that wouldn't tear up every
> time you threw it into a bag like aluminum foil would.  Anything
> paper, ect would be destroyed the first time you tossed it in the
> camera bag.  I was hoping for something durable enough that it could
> bounce around, be abused by banging into other stuff in a camera bag,
> and still be totally functional.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> The solid material being plastic I might be able to heat a needle and
> melt a hole through it.  Drilling would give the cleanest hole and I
> suspect that would be key.  The thickness of the material also could
> and likely would be an issue I didn't think about.
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Rather than aluminum foil, if I glued some cloth over a bigger hole,
> fiberglassed over it, painted it flat black, anyone see any problems.
> Would be thicker than foil, but likely much much stronger.  It would
> also be a pain to redo if damaged.  Oh well
> 
> 
>         -------- Original Message --------
>         Subject: Re: making a pinhole
>         From: Tim Corio <tcorio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         Date: Mon, February 07, 2011 8:17 am
>         To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals -
>         Students
>         <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>         
>         I played with this a few years ago using my Canon 5D. I cut a
>         large
>         hole in a body cap and glued a paper towel tube (painted black
>         on the
>         inside) to that. Glued a cardboard disk to the end with a
>         small
>         (quarter inch) hole. I painted the whole outside black in
>         several
>         layers to fill in a few small light leaks.
>         
>         Over the hole in the end of the tube I taped a piece of
>         aluminum foil.
>         In that foil I poked a small hole using a pin.
>         
>         This gave pretty good results. I could not get a clean hole.
>         Small
>         defects in the hole scattered light reducing contrast.
>         
>         Body caps are cheap on eBay and the rest of the material is
>         nearly free.
>         You can experiment a lot for little cost.
>         
>         Tim
>         
>         On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 21:43 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
>         > On 2011-02-06 16:20, mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>         > > Came up with an idea. Toyed with the idea of trying some
>         pinhole
>         > > photography but something always seems to get in the way.
>         Came up with
>         > > an idea to turn a regular film/digital camera into a
>         pinhole using a
>         > > body cap. Should work on any 35mm digital ect that would
>         accept that
>         > > kind of cap, and an extra cap in the bag weighs next to
>         nothing and no
>         > > bulk or extra stuff to lug around.
>         > 
>         > Would you be shocked to learn they're commercially
>         available? I have 
>         > one for my Nikon bodies. I've done a tiny bit with it on
>         digital; I 
>         > should try it on the D700, which should be a bit better than
>         the DX 
>         > cameras; a bit.
>         > 
>         > > Now I suspect the smaller the hole the better as far as
>         sharpness, but
>         > > is there a group of sizes that I should try? How much of a
>         difference
>         > > in hole size should I allow. Granted a body cap isn't
>         going to alter
>         > > the GDP, but its not like getting another piece of
>         cardboard either. Id
>         > > be interested to hear thoughts and ideas of those with
>         pinhole
>         > > experience.
>         > 
>         > For sharpness, there's an optimal hole size (depends on
>         distance from 
>         > sensor), and either bigger or smaller loses you resolution.
>         For 
>         > 35mm-size cameras, going for sharpness is a mugs game,
>         though; you don't 
>         > get sharp pinhole photography from that small a neg.
>         > 
>         > (Lots of easy online resources on hold size.)
>         > 
>         
>         





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