Nice thoughts Kim. The best and rarest things, like art, stimulate a different thought every time you experience it for your whole life. It proves you are an evolving, thinking person. AZ LOOKAROUND - Since 1978 http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [SPAM] Re: museum collections? > From: Kim Mosley <mrkimmosley@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Wed, January 26, 2011 11:43 am > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Charles Bukowski was a wonderful poet. See: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRc6mHS9PjE > He's the Robert Frost of a different era. > > I enjoyed the talk on criteria that someone had posted by Brooks Jensen ( > http://www.lenswork.com/podcast/LW0639%20-%20Criteria%20Part%202.mp3), and > also thought that it somewhat defines the argument on this forum. I thought > it was very short-sighted in that the names he mentioned (Adams, Weston, > Evans, Lange) all defined their own criteria and thumbed their nose at > existing standards, just as Tina Barney and Charles Bukowski did. In fact, I > sometimes look at history of art books with the idea that, as I turn the > pages, each is doing something they weren't supposed to do. A curator from > from MOMA once said, "Art should make you think and feel, and hopefully take > you to a place you haven't been." Life is too short to be shown the same > stuff over and over again. Let's break the molds. > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Marilyn <marilyn160@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I am enjoying following this thread (Museum Collections) very much. I've > > often wondered, also, how some pieces get into shows and collections. Having > > judged a few shows, and being on the board and commission of an art gallery, > > I understand the process more, but still, many times I'm . . . well . . . > > flabbergasted by decisions made. > > > > I recently went to a display at the Huntington Library here in California. > > They offered a "show" of the writing of Charles Bukowski. Maybe I'm not > > sophisticated enough, but all the way through the display I was asking > > myself, "Why?" and "In the Huntington?" (I admire the Huntington greatly). > > > > Life continues to be a puzzle. > > > > Marilyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **** > > Have you ever wished you could tell your childhood self a thing or two > > about growing up? > > Would the knowledge you know now have saved you from learning things the > > hard way? > > > > It's Tough Growing Up: Children's Stories of Courage > > Marilyn Dalrymple and Joan Foor > > www.itstoughgrowingup.com > > -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Sharpe > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:50 PM > > > > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > > Subject: Re: museum collections? > > > > > > Or maybe it's just piffle. > > > > An email exchange I had with Brooks Jensen was one of the influences > > that caused him to produce these podcasts (Against What Criteria): > > > > http://www.lenswork.com/podcast/LW0638%20-%20Criteria%20Part%201.mp3 > > http://www.lenswork.com/podcast/LW0639%20-%20Criteria%20Part%202.mp3 > > > > Andrew > > > > > > On 01/24/2011 08:50 PM, Kim Mosley wrote: > > > >> For me, there is an element of dada in this picture. In the same way > >> that Marcel Duchamp put a urinal on a pedestal, we see a rather ordinary > >> snapshot enlarged to human proportions. It opens our eyes, showing us > >> how to see something commonplace in a very new way. Some of the > >> commenters from the list seem to want to judge the work rather than > >> experience it. This is a trap. The photographer is asking us to open our > >> eyes and look at something that we might have discarded. Look at humans > >> in this both comic and tragic theatrical setting. What do we see? How is > >> this work more powerful and more universal than that done by a > >> "professional" wedding photographer? > >> > >> Kim > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:38 PM, David Schenken <jds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> <mailto:jds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: > >> > >> An interesting series of comments about museums and art and how it got > >> there. > >> Nobody seems to be talking about what they see in looking at the photo > >> - > >> some technical stuff but not what they SEE. > >> > >> I see a set of four people, three of which are interacting in a really > >> strange manner. > >> These folks are identified as 'bridesmaids' so we assume (???) that > >> they are > >> friends or at least friendly. > >> Not in this picture. The lady to the far right is really angry / > >> disgusted > >> at the lady on the left. > >> Miss center can't yet make up her mind about what just happened and > >> it must > >> really have been recent to get that difference in expressions. > >> Perhaps they > >> have just noticed that Miss left is three months pregnant and that > >> might be > >> inappropriate for this wedding gathering. Perhaps it is the > >> identity of the > >> father that's the problem. > >> > >> We have a mystery here waiting for a story to be told. > >> > >> And then there's that really mysterious lady in the background. Not > >> in the > >> same kind of dress - so not a bridesmaid. > >> Perhaps she's the matron / maid of honor and has been left out of the > >> 'festivities'. > >> > >> This whole drama is being played out in the woods - not the usual > >> venue for > >> wedding. > >> > >> Anyway, that's what I see looking at the image. I'm sure more would > >> come > >> out looking at the real image in the large so that more detail would be > >> apparent. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> James > >> > >> Original Message ----- From: "Lea Murphy" <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> <mailto:lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > >> > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > >> <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:22 AM > >> > Subject: Re: museum collections? > >> > > >> > > >> > This is a link to one of the images I was really wondering about. > >> How this > >> ended up on a museum wall I'd love to know. > >> > > >> > http://collections.kemperart.org/Obj651$6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> your kids . my camera . we'll click > >> www.leamurphy.com <http://www.leamurphy.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Kim Mosley > >> mrkimmosley@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:mrkimmosley@xxxxxxxxx> > >> Website: http://kimmosley.com > >> Blog: http://kimmosley.com/blog > >> > > > > -- > > http://andrewsharpe.com > > > > > > -- > Kim Mosley > mrkimmosley@xxxxxxxxx > Website: http://kimmosley.com > Blog: http://kimmosley.com/blog