John, Reticence and, the flip side, the antic personality are equally strong ways to control the moment. I believe that, in the dance of two egos, the photographer should learn to accept what the subject wants to get out of the encounter. I am uneasy with photographers like Yousuf Karsh who strive for a personal statement. Of course, anyone who sits before someone like him gets what they want - and deserve. AZ LOOKAROUND - Since 1978 Build a 120/35mm Lookaround! The Lookaround E-Book FREE COPY http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [SPAM] Re: PF members exhibit on 12-05-09 > From: John Palcewski <palcewski@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Sun, December 06, 2009 9:06 am > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > John. > > Ah yes, Ms Oats - couldn't miss recognizing her in a crowd. An iconic > > personage if there ever was one. I enjoyed your essay about meeting and > > photographing her. It should stimulate further PS discussion. I think > > portraiture is the most challenging art. It can be a satisfying > > collaboration and it is always a collaboration. Do you agree? > Yes, but some subjects are more active or perhaps more skilled in the > process than others. The great master, in my personal experience, was > Muhammad Ali. He was, in addition to a lot of other things, a > performance artist who painted himself in bold, aggressive strokes. > Oates, on the other hand, leaned more toward subtlety, nuance. Which > frankly surprised me. I wasn't expecting her to be as fluent in > visual self-expression as she was in her expert use of language.