I was reminded while reading more on Wm Motensen that somehow using light and chemical soup, whether an alchemist like WM was or an empiricist like AA was, doing it "by hand" is popularly regarded more worthy than by mouse. For me his work is an example that completes the circle of so-called "hand" to digital art expression. I just got rid of the last odds n' ends of my darkroom stuff - gave it all away. I have to say with no modesty that I was good at the darkroom. It isn't rocket surgery. I am but a novice at anything but the most routine PhotoShop skills. PS requires at the very least, an equal amount of general technical skill and affords way more choices of particular manual skills. It is by no means easy. Why do people persist in devaluing art made with the aid of a computer? I am not squeamish about using PS plug-ins. Are you? Is it less worthy? Should or could the same result be gotten in the dark? More MM stuff: http://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Mortensen/mortensen.html http://www.artnet.com/artist/682224/william-mortensen.html http://photo.net/photography-education-forum/005fZU AZ LOOKAROUND - Since 1978 Build a 120/35mm Lookaround! The Lookaround E-Book FREE COPY http://www.panoramacamera.us