Well its not like Id really have to give up CS2. It still does what I expect it to do. I have no interest in graphic design. Yea there are a few features Id like to have but the expense reward just isn't there yet. The biggest drawback is that bridge is so (insert your favorite word from the George Carlin list here) slow, I was leaning toward lightroom. That is till Adobe treated me what I consider to be very poorly this afternoon. If the people dealing with Aperture would take a call and answer a simple question that would have a great deal of weight in my decision. No I don't expect them to teach me to use it over the phone, and no I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't exist for a version 2 updates old or really upset. Yet telling me to ask someone else really turned me the wrong way. Lightroom was the way I was leaning though. Thanks
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Subject: Re: Well another day, another day on the phone
From: Lea Murphy <lea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, November 18, 2009 10:30 pm
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
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If the only reason you're considering upgrading Photoshop is for the
camera raw capabities I'd totally skip it and go to Lightroom.
There are so many reasons LR beats ACR I can't list them all.
Organization, workflow, ease of use and speed being huge factors.
LR seems to be more of a standard than Aperture and for that reason
I'd go with LR. There are great resources on the web for it.
I would give up Photoshop before I'd give up LR. No question about it.
Hope this helps a bit.
Lea
life is short. photograph it.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:15 PM, mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Well I got ready to go process a few images today and realized the
> days
> of digital imaging create more fun fun fun, but no one took my T bird
> away.
>
> I got a 50D earlier this week, and I use CS2. Well Canon changed
> their
> raw format and CS2 does not the new format. Spent over an hour
> looking
> for an update to accept the new raw format with no luck. Broke down
> and
> called Adobe. That took two hours and four transfers only to be told
> because they no longer support CS2, they won't answer the question.
> Ok
> I could accept that they wouldn't tell me over the phone how to use
> photoshop, and I would fully understand if they said sorry but no
> update
> was available that would make that raw format work in CS2. I would
> also
> not be surprised that there is something that would work somewhere.
> Pointing me to that file wouldn't have helped Adobe far more than it
> would have hurt. I would even accepted an honest I don't know.
> Instead
> I was told to go ask someone else on their forums. I am for the first
> time seriously considering alternatives, but that is a second
> consideration.
>
> If I update Photoshop its 199 and Lightroom is $299.00 which at some
> point I am going to need anyway. Id be interested in which way others
> in the group would go in this situation. After the body, I really
> need
> to get the holidays out of the way before either but I would
> appreciate
> you opinions on which way you would go and why.
>
> I have 2 work arounds that I can use in the mean time. One is to
> convert the Raw files to Adobe DNG, and CS2 should open a DNG file
> without a problem. That should allow the raw controls ect as I would
> with the canon raw and then convert based on need, but it does add an
> additional step. The other option is the Canon software which also
> should work, but probably would slow the workflow down even more.
>
> Is there another way that I didn't think about to work around this I
> haven't thought about?? This could be one of those "Why didn't I
> think
> of that?" moments. Id appreciate the help. For the first time if I
> have to update, I am going to seriously consider Aperture.
>
> Now Andy wanted less tech talk, and my apology for the above. Yet for
> the first time in a while I am excited to go take some photos. IF all
> goes well and the mother in law doesn't start on the phone first thing
> in the morning, I am headed to a local nature preserve to spend some
> time photographing birds and praire dogs. With a little luck maybe a
> bison or two as well. The weather is good, the temp is great and
> skies
> are surposed to be clear. Id be interested to know what gets you
> excited to go out and take photographs???
>
> Mark
>
