On Sat, June 7, 2008 13:55, Chris wrote: > However it lacks the quality I used to get with black and white printing > from mono-negative and plastika chlorobromide paper. I think that digital > still lacks the quality of film. Another ten years of development and it > will be as good as film or better. I routinely produce results with digital that I never could have come close to with 35mm film (and I had been doing my own darkroom work since about 1970). Your R285 probably isn't a very good B&W printer (my R800 isn't too good at B&W either), but others in the Epson range (R2400, 3800, 4800, and all the current big ones) (and some of the HPs) are superb for B&W. I've got a 20x30 inch (image area) print from a 35mm Tri-x negative I shot in 1975 that I finally managed to make a good print digitally of last year, with help from a really expert friend and use of his printer (Epson 9800) for the output. Even 11x14 darkroom prints from tri-x mostly looked grainy and bad to me; this much larger print looks excellent. (I suppose I should double-check what film the original negative is, just to be sure). -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b@xxxxxxxx; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info