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Thanks for all the good info, Alan. I have graphic design experience
from way back and would like to try a book to try to revive the old
skills. Now my photos are in such disarray from using different
computers over the years and scanning film negs etc. that I will need
to put them in order first. Something that should have been done a
long time ago anyway. This has been a brutal winter in Iowa and indoor
activities are just fine. A question or two - they probably would be
answered quickly anyway - but do you pay money upfront? Do you receive
complimentary copies or are you just another customer once the book is
done? So you create the book on your computer and then upload relevant
files to Blurb? The Blurb site, at least, looked a little more
sophisticated than the Lulu site. Don lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Don, I saw a finished Blurb book that was very nice - a friend did the catalog for her MFA show in Graphic design. The free program is easy to use. I have experience with layout programs - at first glance it may seem intimidating for some but they have it so a beginner can just drag-and-drop a good looking book. I did a short test book of images first. I needed to see how across the gutter pans and various B/W combinations looked. Turns out if you allow 1/4in. overlap at the gutter, pans look fine. B/W is a diffrent story. The over-all densities are OK but color varies under different viewing lights. All the B/W are sent RGB the same as color prints. Most photographers I showed the books to said the B/W quality was acceptable. One thing I learned that will make the job go better is to organize the JPEG's in book directories before you start. You format them according to Blurb recommendations and re-save them in the book's own directory. Also give them clear names. After that it's a breeze. I have two more books in the works one on petroglyphs and the other is volume two of "Waiting Images". I also plan to keep all my best digicam stuff up-dated in books. I think 8 x 10, 50-60 pages makes a nice edition size. I think it would be way cool to work towards having sets of 4-5 of these volumes in slip cases. BTW I don't plan to market the books, just to have them for the record. Also I'm hoping to trade them with other artist friends. AZ Build a 120/35mm Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SPAM] Re: News in the 1910's From: Don Roberts <droberts@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, January 22, 2008 11:33 am To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Alan, very nice work! I like being able to view the first 15 pages in a protected format. Out of curiosity, since the PF Gallery book was done at Lulu.com, why did you decide to use Blurb? I haven't looked into any of those services yet other than second hand with the Gallery book. Don lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:Michael, I learned in PH101 that editing is a fundamental component of photography. Either as a collaborative effort or the next creative step in the photographic art process it is a valuable skill. If you can't do it get help - same as you would writing for publication. Editing can be another medium altogether. It is an art to delve into a lot of images and make them our own _expression_. I say "bring em on," the more images the better! Shameless plug - today I got my second Blurb book back. Editing your pictures and then making a book is a thrilling exercise - everyone should give it a try. I can't say enough praise for the Blurb book-making system. It is very easy and inexpensive. To see my books go here and enter alan zinn in search: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/ Build a 120/35mm Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [SPAM] Re: News in the 1910's From: editor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Mon, January 21, 2008 8:02 pm To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Yikes! I have always believed that there is great value in EDITING -- the idea of less is more, subjectivity, and telling a story. More photos is merely more data. It takes the artinsanry of editing to turn a morass of data into "content". As such, one of the key deliverables by any artist, editor, or author is sythesising/reducing, in the most concise manner possible, that which is truly relevant. Young artists are advised: "show only your ten best pieces". Why on earth would searching the endless web for "more" not be less? In the end, this is why I enjoy looking at portfolios, why I love going to a museum, why I love reading a good book -- someone has taken the effort to separate the wheat from the chaff (even if I don't agree with them) Michael Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: karl shah-jenner <shahjen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:04:33 To:List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students<photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: News in the 1910's Don Roberts writes: : Peeter Vissak wrote: : > I wonder how many pixel photographs from the turn of this century : > will still be around in the 2050s-2060s : > to tell the story of mankind on this little planet. : > Peeter the Pessimist : I imagine : institutions like the Smithsonian and the LOC are very much aware of the : problems with digital images and have plans in place to archive those. I understand a lott of the archiving is being done on film, digital originals being retained - they're especially useful for rapid access, but long term storage on film seems the backup method : The biggest problem may be one of identification. You know when you do : an image search on Goggle you find many images that have been tagged : with your search terms but really are not what you requested. That sort : of thing may be a huge problem. I've noticed google's image search has been getting sillier and sillier of later, with wildly inappropriate material being thrown up (!) One way images can be searched effectively is if IPTC information or comments are written to the image* , then a file search can be done for say *.jpg (or RAW) containing text <word as appropriate, ie party, cake, dress etc> and date ranges are set in the search - say then I am searching for a customers wedding photo I can search photos taken in 2007 - search for wedding search again for (customers name) search again for cake within those results Another way is to regularly extract all such info to an excel spreadsheet and search that the same way. Another way again is using a tool like image seek which I wrote of here before, which comes in windows and mac flavours This lets you do a rough squiggle and then the program finds images which compare closely to the squiggle you drew, or if you have a photo that's similar to what you're chasing you set it off to find all such photos. it's free and it's here: http://www.imgseek.net/ and one day I hope goggle incorporates something similar :) Karl |
