Re: exploding soda can matter

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I said "bubbly" mixture. There's a world of difference between that and an aerosol. The speed of sound is proportional to the square root of the coefficient of elasticity of the mixture to it's density. The addition of bubbles greatly reduces thia coefficient while having a small effect on the density. The speed of sound plunges. In the 60s I had a PhD student at Princeton study the flow of bubbly mixtures in a convergent-divergent nozzle. Shock waves in the divergent portion of the nozzle were readily obtained at low speeds and agreed very well with conventional one-d supersonic flow theory.

This is getting pretty far off topic!

Roger

On 5 Dec 2007, at 12:01 PM, karl shah-jenner wrote:

Roger writes:


: Not to contradict any thing you say, but the speed of sound in bubbly : mixture (which one will have in a soda when the pressure is released)
: is very low. -- of the order of feet per second.


there's still connecting liquid - if it were a dispersed aerosol then yes, it would be slower than solid fluid, but it's considerably faster in liquid than in air , and the more moisture in the air, the faster sound travels for example in dry air the speed is roughly 331m/s, in fog it approaches 402m/s (even though the sound is dispersed)


Also, the speed of sound increases in air with increased temperature too, from 346m/s at 25C to 365m/s at 60C


comparison - speed of sound in dry air at 30C is around 331m/s
muzzel velocity of a .303 is around 780m/s
the speed of sound in water is around 1497 m/s



karl



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