I haven't been keeping much of an eye on this for a while but bumped into a cinematographer yesterday who told me these were not only out, real, available to buy and own - but also they were cheap! http://www.red.com/cameras "Typical high-end HD camcorders have 2.1M pixel sensors and record with 3:1:1 color sub-sampled video at up to 30fps. We deliver 12M pixels at up to 60fps and record wide dynamic range and color space 12 bit native RAW. That's more than 5 times the amount of information available every second and a vastly superior recording quality. Don't need all that data for your workflow? Dial it back, and keep all the other advantages of the Mysterium T Super 35mm cine sized (24.4×13.7mm) sensor. You get the same breathtaking Depth of Field and selective focus as found in film cameras using equivalent 35mm P/L mount lenses. Mysterium T boasts greater than 66db Dynamic Range thanks to its large 29 sq. micron pixels. And 12,065,000 pixels deliver resolution that can only be called Ultra High Definition. price ? $17,500 US who's shooting with it, Peter Jackson for one.. http://www.red.com/gallery contary to the critics claims <http://dvinfo.net/conf/archive/index.php/t-65947.html >, Jim Jannard the billionare put him honey where his mouth was and ponied up for the R&D costs so the consumer gets the camera at rock bottom price. any way you cut it, a 12Mp camera that can rip at 60fps is worht it's weight in gold :) karl