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If you took the park and superimposed a nude taken a studio or an electrically made image from ‘poser’ program would that be an offence? Probably it would be.

 


From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JOSEPH GUERRA
Sent: 07 October 2007 16:22
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Saw This On Digital BW,The Print forum

 

I saw this on Digital BW,The Print, forum, and think some of you might be interested in the issue. JG
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Be Careful Who You Photograph in National Parks

Posted by: "stonieorl99" stonieorl@xxxxxxx   stonieorl99


Sat Oct 6, 2007 5:56 am (PST)

A few weeks ago, I was issued a citation in a national park for

photographing a model without a permit.

The offense was "failure to obtain permit," 36 CFR 1.6(g)(1);

the citation did not mention the law or

regulation that actually required the permit. The citation imposed a

$150

fine, and required a mandatory court appearance. I might have

contested the

charge, but the court appearance would have been in Salt Lake City,

Utah,

and I live in Florida.

The ranger took my camera, tripod, and three exposed rolls of film. I

was

not rude or uncooperative. As a matter of fact, he said if I had not

been so

cooperative he would have made it a lot worse on me.

After talking to his supervisor, he did return the camera and tripod

the

next day, but kept the film as evidence. He was very courteous, and

when we

began to chat about it, it came out that the real reason he issued

the citation

was that my model was nude. Although nudity is legal in national

parks (as

the ranger himself admitted), he didn't approve personally, and this

was the

strongest citation he could find to issue. By the way, he gave the

model the

same citation that he gave me, imposing a $150 fine and requiring a

court

appearance.

He stated that if I decided to fight the citation, "community

standards"

would come into play and I would for sure loose the fight (He kept my

film

to prove my shots were not up to "community standards"). He also said

if I

had applied for a permit I would have been denied because of the same

"community standards."

I shoot art nudes, sometimes in landscapes. None could possibly be

considered

pornographic or distasteful. All the shots on the day I was cited had

the

model framing the landscape; all that was visible was her back or

side as

she looked out over a canyon, and most people would have to look

twice to

even notice her in the image. By the way, we were in a remote area

early in

the morning. No one had complained. The ranger apparently had seen us

as he

made routine early morning rounds through the park. It seems the

citation

was issued solely because of the ranger's personal tastes and his

interpretation of "community standards."

I looked at the NPS web page for permits for Commercial Filming and

Still

Photography at

http://home.nps.gov/applications/digest/permits.cfm?urlarea=permits,

and

noticed that photography in national parks requires a permit when;

"the activity uses model(s), sets(s), or prop(s) that are not a part

of the

location's natural or cultural resources or administrative facilities"

There are no definitions of any of these terms, so it is not clear

who is a

"model." Looking at the fee schedule at the bottom of the web page,

it does

not even appear that a permit is needed for still photography

involving only

a camera and tripod and 1–2 people. After seeing this, I wish I had

been

able to fight the citation, but I simply could not afford the time

and expense.

NOW TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

I just learned that there is a proposed rule formalizing the permit

requirements for lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management,

the

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Park Service.

Reading the

proposed rule, especially after my recent experience, I am concerned

that a

"model," "set," or "prop" may be interpreted to mean whatever a

particular

ranger wants it to be. Perhaps a "model" could even include a

photographer's

spouse, son, daughter, and dear ole Mom if the ranger disliked

something

else the photographer was doing. With my delay shutter release, I

could have

also been a model. [Although not one I would want in my images.]

Would my model and I have been cited if she had not been nude?

I have seen suggestions on several forums for definitions of "model"

and

"prop" to be added to the rule:

Model means a person who poses for filming, photography, videotaping,

or

recording by other means for the purpose of promoting the sale or use

of a

product or service. A commercial-professional model.

Prop means an object such as a vehicle, boat, article of clothing,

food and

beverage product, or other commercial article filmed, photographed,

videotaped, or recorded by other means to promote its sale or use.

These seem to be reasonable definitions; had they been in effect,

neither my

model nor I would have been cited.

The proposed rule was published in the Federal Register on August 20,

2007.

The description of the rule can be obtained from the GPO Access web

site at

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/index.html; search for "filming". The

relevant

result is fr20au07P.

I submit this for your information, and encourage you to submit

comments on this

proposed rule change.

I personally think this something every American should be concerned

about and

especially every photographer.

If you wish to submit a comment re these definitions, the time is

short: the

rule is open to public comment only until October 19, 2007.

Again.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/index.html; search for "filming". The

relevant

result is fr20au07P

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