I do not think this is true. Consumer enthusiast still exist and they soon find out how necessary it is to know about movement blur, depth of field, focussing and lighting, even colour temperature, but skill in the darkroom, chemistry and film technology is replaced by Photoshop, disk space, pixel density and the characteristic light response of the photo diodes or whatever used in the camera. The lens knowledge is as it was. Lenses are getting smaller the E range on Olympus E cameras are physically smaller and lighter than previous but they are still very expensive. Knowing where to put the sun and the sort of light to use is also of still of paramount importance. As are all the ideas accumulated, it is only a machine, the camera, after all, it is the intelligent eye that sees. Christopher Strevens -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of karl shah-jenner Sent: 06 January 2007 04:41 To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: Questions for 2007 written elsewhere on the web by 'Kosh': > I thought it might be interesting to see where an open discussionon the > photo industry might take us..... ( somehting different from standard > threads). > > Mnay of you may have heard of the CEBIT Computer and Electronics fair in > germany. It is in danger of closing it's doors ( http://www.playfuls.com/news_05585_Declining_German_Computer_Fair_Cebit_ See ks_Rescue.html > > one argument is that the Cumpter and Electronics industry is essentially > dead, it is now Consumer Electronics...... no longer driven by retailers, > but bypassing them entirely and marketing direct to the consumer. Not only > the death of their input into the market (ie it is not who stocks say... > IBM, but which manufacturer markets themselves better), but also it means > the death of the speciality store... and hence no people who know what the > h*ll they are talking about.... shrug of shoulders response to problems. > > my question is...... do you think this has happened or is happening in > photographics? > > the alchemy is gone.... and soon will be the day when an explanation of > shutter speed or depth of field will be lost at any sort of retail level. love to hear peoples reactions to the question karl Perth, West Australia