--- "James B. Davis" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:10:40 +0200, Peeter Vissak <pv@xxxxxx> > wrote/replied to: > > >>Is it their choice though? > >>Not every country has freedom of choice. > > > >What? The freedom of being different? The choice of their > religion? > >The freedom of rejecting the so-called western democracy? > >I think thyey have always had that. > >Perhaps lacking some other aspects of freedom, yes. > > So you're saying that every man woman and child there has > total freedom of > religion? > > Face it, they have NO freedom whatsoever. They want to be > Christian, they'll be > put to death. It's happening right now, check CNN. I'll probably regret injecting myself into this thread but.....I've spent some time in Arab countries and in my experience, whatever little freedom that exists there is enjoyed by men only. Women have freedom too - to obey the men. Sure, it's a "cultural" thing but the culture was invented by men. Women have no say whatsoever. However, I don't think that's unique to Arab societies. It wasn't that long ago when women in Western countries had precious little in the way of freedom. I've also heard it said that religion itself was invented by men to keep women and children in line. But you didn't hear that from me! Not sure what all this has to do with photography. Except that we as photographers sometimes violate cultural norms (not always knowingly) simply by taking someone's picture. The fact that it may be our job to do so doesn't make the violation any less real or serious. Back in my PJ days I was punched more than once and shot at a couple of times. Was I violating someone's cultural taboos? Maybe. One of the individuals was a "mafia" type who objected to my taking his picture. That was his "culture". Richard