Roger, You need guacamole and a pitcher of margaritas to do good avacado art.. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 4th ed. Now an E-book. http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Bell Peppers > From: Roger Eichhorn <eichhorn@xxxxxx> > Date: Mon, February 06, 2006 9:37 pm > To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Don, > > No! How can you possibly get the impression of two human bodies in a > sensuous embrace using an avocado unless you peel a couple of them > and carve the flesh. But, that might be interesting. With two > avocado pits, you have the possibility of two eyes, or, two other > parts of the male anatomy. I await your submission. Clearly, this > could be morphed into an on-topic discussion! But, I must go -- the > market closes in one hour! > > Roger > > Roger Eichhorn > eichhorn@xxxxxx > > > > On 6 Feb 2006, at 19:39, Don Roberts wrote: > > > Well, I'd really rather use an avocado. Is that okay? > > Don > > > > Roger Eichhorn wrote: > > > >> Ahh! I have visions of a "pepper gallery" competition. The many > >> protagonists involved in this discussion will photograph bell > >> peppers purchased at their local market, and submit their best > >> efforts to be critiqued and judged by Bob Maxey and each other. > >> To make the competition fair, they will have to agree to use the > >> same type of camera. I would suggest Brownies or an 11X14 > >> equipped with a Hypergon lens, but all may not have access to > >> them so a popular one- time use camera should suffice. > >> > >> Andy could easily set this up and serve as a second to the winner > >> in the duels that will surely follow. > >> > >> Roger > >> > >> Roger Eichhorn > >> eichhorn@xxxxxx > >> > >> > >> > >> On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:37, Don Roberts wrote: > >> > >>> Elson, don't for a minute consider yourself ignorant or a > >>> failure because you don't see much in Weston's peppers. I have > >>> been involved in photography as a livelihood and and a personal > >>> compulsion for over 50 years and I never saw much in those > >>> photos either except as an exercise in lighting. The only thing > >>> in this thread that amazes me is that so many intelligent, > >>> experienced photographers seem to be reluctant to admit that > >>> there are many different kinds of photography besides what > >>> drives them and many different preferences in visual {and other) > >>> forms. Too many here make the assumption that art drives the > >>> photo bus, or scenics, or science, or self exploration. The > >>> truth, and you all know it, is that there are many equally valid > >>> uses and applications for any form of human endeavor. Get your > >>> heads out of your respective body parts and read what people are > >>> saying and take a little time to think before you leap screaming > >>> into the fray. My friends and I often recommend movies, plays, > >>> books or music to each other and then ask what the other person > >>> thought. If they don't share our enthusiasm, that's okay. They > >>> are not me; I am not them. It would be a hell of a boring world > >>> if we all liked the same things and thought alike. But that's > >>> my viewpoint. You are not me. If you prefer to scream and > >>> shout and run about, feel free. I just get tired of seeing ill > >>> considered opinions and misinterpretations blown into tirades > >>> about photographic heresies. This seems to be becoming an > >>> increasingly contentious age so perhaps we are all victims of > >>> the times. Sad thought. > >>> Don Roberts > >>> > >>> Elson T. Elizaga wrote: > >>> > >>>> Forgive my ignorance and my failure to see. I'm astonished > >>>> about my comment myself. Sometimes I share with other > >>>> photographers the same or similar reaction to an admired > >>>> photograph -- such as "Afghan Girl" by Steve McCurry -- > >>>> sometimes I don't. In my place, I sometimes find myself > >>>> watching a movie, such as "Mystic River" (and recently > >>>> "Beautiful Boxer"), and discovered only less than people with > >>>> me. But I love these films. I've just been watching "Seven > >>>> Samurai" and "Hidden Fortress" by Akira Kurosawa (who else?), > >>>> but I'm not moved -- perhaps, not yet -- by Weston's "Pepper". > >>>> > >>>> I've read some articles about the photograph. But then, it's a > >>>> photograph, it's supposed to strike us by its being a > >>>> photograph, not by the volumes of text about it, right? > >>>> > >>>> lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Elson, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am astonished by your comment. If you are seriously > >>>>> interested in > >>>>> photography look at a lot of it and read what is being said > >>>>> about it. I > >>>>> just saw a magnificent Weston exhibit and even after decades > >>>>> of seeing > >>>>> his prints (the real prints) I was deeply moved by there > >>>>> clarity of > >>>>> intent and perfection. Perhaps because he is one of the most > >>>>> imitated > >>>>> photographers along with Adams his work may not seem special to > >>>>> you. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am not bashing Elson, > >>>>> > >>>>> AZ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Build a Lookaround! > >>>>> The Lookaround Book, 4Th ed. > >>>>> Now an E-book. > >>>>> http://www.panoramacamera.us > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> On the whole, human beings want to be good, but not too good, > >>> and not quite all the time. > >>> George Orwell > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > On the whole, human beings want to be good, but not too good, and > > not quite all the time. > > George Orwell
