I have a friend who works for a company that has a lot of their things
manufactured in China, his wife was showing me her camera which he picked up
for her on one of his visits to China, apparently it is not available in the
US yet, and it sounded like it was kind of a prototype deal in China, any
way it was as I recall 13 megapixels, about 3/4 of an inch thick, out side
dimensions maybe 3" by 4" sorry don't recall what the zoom rate was, but I
was interested, I would love to see what quality came from it and intend to
get a file from it to look at on my computer, compare it to my 1Ds.
Terry L. Mair
Mair's Photography
158 South 580 East
Midway, Utah 84049
435-654-3607
www.mairsphotography.com
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From: <fotofx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students"
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: Canon digital bodies
Joseph,
No Worries, it's just money <vbg>. I have to say that I really do think
that Canon's lens quality has done down some since the advent of digital.
It to me is an afterthought. Digital cameras are based on an old design,
the 35mm SLR. I can't wait to see what the future brings in size and shape
and capabilities of new gear.
I really do think that the optical viewfinder needs to go. It takes up too
much space with the mirror box and such. if our cameras did not have
optical viewfinders we wouldnot need mirrors and lenses could be alot
smaller in size and weight. If the chip is smaller why build this huge
darn camera around it? We would have far fewer dust bunnies inside without
haveing to change the lenses so much. Just think we could have a camera
nody with a 10mm to 600mm lens builtin with a a frame rate of 24fps and
each file is 60 megs or better 1gig!!
Not so far away I think just modify a video camera....
Les
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From: "Joseph Chamberlain, DDS" <drjchamberlain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Nov 10, 2005 7:46 PM
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
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Subject: Re: Canon digital bodies
Lens:
Thank you for your help.
As you will have the chance to see, I have posted a message to the group
earlier today that actually explains the solution I've found to the
problem.
Your suggestions have been very helpful and I will follow some of the
suggestion you have shared with me here.
My setting for sharpening is also set for the factory's default but I am
going to look at it and see if changes can actually improve the results I
am
obtaining. Very good point.
Thank you again and best regards,
Joseph
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Dr. Joseph Chamberlain
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery
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On 11/9/05 10:44 AM, "fotofx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <fotofx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Joe,
I have been using Canon for 30 years. And even they have made some pigs.
Nikon, Pentax, Olympus all have their share. So has Hassy, Mamiya etc. I
have
used all of it and then some. I have ran rental departments, sold and
resold
gear and seem some real doozies from the makers of camera gear. It has
nothing
to do with price.
But all that being said the first area to look at is always behind the
camera.
What sharpeness setting do you have the camera set to? Also if you are
getting
softness around the edges in digital at the widest apertures have you
tested
other lenses so see if it the body? May I suggest a standard 50 mm 1.5
lens
set to f/8 or f/11 and what ever shutter speed is correct for the scene.
That
will either rule out the camera body or not. Most zooms have some
softness
around the edges with film. But you camera (EOS 1D Mk2 N ?) should not
see
much if any of that becuase it is not full frame.
There are so darn many variables that without actually seeing your test
images
it is going to be tough to assist you.
What ever you do, don't depend on a print for sharpness testing.
Also you need to know that Nikon and Canon have very different coatings
so
color and contrast are remarkably different. This will show up better if
you
shot both side by side with slide film. So if you are expecting your
digtal
images from Canon to look like your trannies from Nikon you are in for a
suprise. Also Nikon and Canon digital images do not look alike. The
contrast
range is different. Nikon uses completely different algorithms to
determine
color and contrast range. This can equate to the differance in papers
used in
printing. When printing the old Cibachrome very high gloss papers your
images
looked "sharper" even though in actuality they were not.
Each of the two camps use different sharpening techniques to bring the
image
apperant sharpness.
Many folks who start shooting Canon digital complain that the image is
not
sharp from the camera. That is the way it is supposed to look. Canon
wants you
to be able to sharpen the image and control contrast as you see fit.
Please do not get caught up in small stuff to start. You will find
frustrataion around every bend if you do. I did not like the way my 10d
rendered images. Plane and simple. I think it sucked. I really did like
my D30
better.
But like you, I just bought a 1Dmk2n and I am extremely happy for that.
But it
also caused me to go and buy a new computer and monitor to handle the
images.
The default sharpness setting for our cameras is 3. How is yours set.
Film had no setting. In testing those lenses, once you have ruled out the
body, you need to test it with at least one other digital body and one
film
body. This can be done in your camera store. You may have to return those
lenses and get two others that are more to your liking. I have a friend
that
shoots Nikon and he went over 3 500 mm lenses before he was satisified.
The
all fall within a quality range, some are at the top of the range some
may
have had to go back and be reworked before they passed QA & shipped out.
I would be glad to help you off line if needed I am up in San Jose. But
Canon
has its repair facility right there in LA.
Les
