>YOU'RE sorry. I'm downright despondent! That sentence alone has changed the >way I look at photography. Greg The important thing is to get a woman's kit off before you take a photo - oh, and for goodness sake remember to present it in B&W. Everyone then knows it's suppose to be art and can review it using the list of phrases acceptable to the artist). - Leave her kit on and you are in danger of it being mistaken for a snapshot. - Leave it in colour and people might mistake it for porn. A cigar is indeed sometimes just a cigar. But never to a real artist Q __________________________________________________________________ 1Mb Tiscali Broadband for £14.99. Offer ends 30th June 2005 http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband