Well I shot the cityscape on film but after that its all digital. If you have Photoshop (I use PS7) I would gladly send you a little tutorial on how I did it. Just let me know if you still want a tutorial. I'll put one up on my website. It's not super obvious at this PF gallery resolution but the American flag follows the contour of the curtains at the right and the grid work on the rooftop. I would imagine that to duplicate that effect in the darkroom would likely be a very difficult process. Greg > Wow, Greg, > Knowing the details makes this photo even more special. Do > you feel like teaching me on (or off) list how to do this > type work?