------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:54:32 -0400 From: dhssresearcher@xxxxxxxxxxxx To: infrared@xxxxx Subject: Re: Announcement about Kodak Send reply to: infrared@xxxxx "Willem-Jan Markerink" <w.j.markerink@xxxxx> wrote: >On 17 May 2005 at 22:24, Bob Maxey wrote: > >> >>>Loading my Noblex 150 once more with fresh Kodachrome!....:)) >> (anyone willing to bet that even within the next 5 years there will >> be a digital equivalent with the same resolution?)>>> >> >> >> More to it than resolution. Longevity is a big reason Kodachrome such a >> great film. Well, grain and sharpness, too. > >Fact remains that there *are* no digi-equivalents for MF swing-lens >camera's (which, not being SLR, have vastly better lenses). > >> >> >>>PS: I'd like some additional higher-ASA batch as well....that's >> exactly what I have been pestering MACO about with their IR-films >> too....:)) >>> >> >> >> Why? You lose quality as you increase speed. Kodachrome 25 is demonstrably >> sharper than Kodachrome 64. I once shot everything on Kodachrome 25 because >> there is a difference. > >But I can't take a tripod with me skiing....:)) >(Kodak HIE with #87C is an even larger pest, at an effective 12 ASA) > >> >>>On exactly that argument I am trying to talk MACO into it....;)) >> Add non-existent Chinese environmental regulations for final >> processing, and we might get somewhere....>>> >> >> >> And you are certain there are no regulation in place? Research again and >> please post proof. > >Just look at what generation of automotive emissions they allow in >brand-new plants....all 10-20 years behind on US/EU. > > >> > I am firmly of the belief that the *reason* for the "lack of demand" for >> > Kodachrome is the lack of promotion, the lack of availability, etc. In >> > other words, it's been left out to die, so it's been dying. Give it a >> > shot in the arm, let people know that there's a *will* to keep it going, >> > and they'll line up in droves to buy it and use it. (Even more, if it's >> > also coated in 120!) >> >> >> Yet, nobody buys the stiff. Before digital, we sold lots of the stuff. We >> sold very little compared to E6 materials, however. We sold very little 120 >> Kodachrome, incidentally. We always sold more print film than slide film. > >But: the argument of toxic/carcinogenic waste is mooth, as long as >Kodak still makes at least 1 type/size of Kodachrome. > >Same (even) if the last types *only* linger on because Kodak is bound >to some contracts with large/industrial/scientific customers. > > >> > Would it be necessary to come up with a different *name*? Would Yellow >> > Father raise a stink over the use of the "Kodachrome" name? >> >> >> They would be within their absolute rights to object. Again, you assume >> Kodak would allow others to make the stuff. You would need to licence the >> patents in place and that alone will cost lots of money. I just paid a fee >> for the rights to reproduce a Kodak Data Guide from 1943, so I know how they >> work and think. > >I doubt any essential Kodachrome patent is younger than 20 >years....after which there *is* no patent left. > > >-- >Bye, > >Willem-Jan Markerink > > The desire to understand >is sometimes far less intelligent than > the inability to understand > ><w.j.markerink@xxxxx> >[note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!] > One thing from moving to near Rochester the last year is that I don't think Kodak *cares* about film. Its moving to China, firing workers here, leveling production facilities and selling off land. All for the good of stockholders. A recent CEO (hired from HP) just left, to the tune of a few million in stock after a few years. Its saying its a big digital firm, but if you read the fine print, its going for the $200 cameras. Now, nobody could compete with Kodak as far as film. It had the expertise. As far as home printers, dinky digital cameras, its cutting its throat. I see this as another disc film, APX, 126, etc etc etc that its done over the ages. 35mm was the bedrock. But, no more. I even look at film photographymagazines, no Kodak ads. Fuji, no Kodak. The customer service has really gone downhill in the past decade or so. I remember Kodak would answer letters, help with products, quickly supply what you wanted. not anymore. It used to be a good company. regards. Frank Schiffel Lakeville, NY ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- Bye, Willem-Jan Markerink The desire to understand is sometimes far less intelligent than the inability to understand <w.j.markerink@xxxxx> [note: 'a-one' & 'en-el'!]