Manipulation of the image has been used since the beginning of photography. Most of the early work had several studio sessions with different models and these were placed into arty scenery in the darkroom. And lots of the alternative processing was done with the object of making a painterly image. So there is nothing new. Chris. :> -----Original Message----- :> From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner- :> photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shyrell Melara :> Sent: 17 February 2005 13:57 :> To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students :> Subject: Re: My Computer Graphic :> :> In a demacratic society, of course, majority rules. But I still object to :> composing a completely computer generated image in PS (or any other :> program) and calling it photography. :> Webster's: pho-tog-ra-phy\ n1839: the art or process of producing images :> on a sensitized surface (as a film) by the action of radient energy and :> especially light. :> Of course I need a new dictionary, one that now has the definition of :> digital photography. But I still need to hold on to, for now, that :> photography is, by its nature, something more than the product of a :> program without a "photograph", be it film or digital. :> :> SM