Shyrell, I would say simply that one kind of picture is "straight" and the other "arted." Folks will argue endlessly about what straight is. I say it is what the camera rendered on the film excepting cosmetic enhancements such as dodging and burning. Arted pictures are anything you can imagine including doing it over in paint on canvas. Looking at the photo history books we can find arted photos since almost the beginning. I'm in favor of calling a picture not made on film a virtual photo or virtuality. AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. NOW SHIPPING http://www.panoramacamera.us > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: Chris's computer graphic > From: "Shyrell Melara" <shyrellmelara@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Tue, February 15, 2005 6:39 pm > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ADavidhazy <andpph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Just a thought - should images that have no connection > > to reality be shown in our photography gallery? > > > > andy > > I personally think not. And please take no offence. I wasn't going to say anything myself. I'm not as technically knowledgeable as most of this group. But being an artist as well as a photographer, I thought this group was about photography, plain and simple - what one does with a camera photographically speaking. Not what is done to the picture after it has been taken. Unless it is akin to the old darkroom techniques. > But since some of what has shown up in the gallery lately, to me, appears to be more art than photography, I'm glad you asked the question. I was beginning to wonder if straight photography was being phased out along with regular film cameras. > > Case in point: This week's gallery, > > Talbot - real photography - practically perfect > Strevens (And I apologise way ahead of time if I got this wrong) - Judy is PS'd - right? Not that this isn't photography... Was the background an actual photograph to start with? > Mair - beautiful portrait work - straight photography > Mason - What can be done with a camera (without PS artistry - right?) > > Andy, can you give us a for instance, cause now I'm all confused. Are PS'd pictures considered photos or art? It would still be a photograph if it was changed from color to black and white in PS. But is it still a photograph when it is changed in PS using strange effects and computerized characters added? > > Shyrell Melara > > For the Quality You Deserve! > Melara Family Photography > http://shyrellmelara.tripod.com > > > > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Find what you are looking for with the Lycos Yellow Pages > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10
