Re: Review--PF Galleries on 05 FEB 05 (Doorway Feedback)

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I'll reply to all the reviews on Qkano's Doorway shot in one post.
http://www.rit.edu/~andpph/gallery/talbot.html


It was one of those frames where feedback really was being awaited....
Technically everything was wrong, the frame was full of photographic
flaws, it wasn't even the whole frame, yet something spoke to me
looking at the negative to make me try to salvage something from it.
After all that, and the reason for seeking the feedback, there is
still the lingering doubt that it was just my own quirky taste it
talked to.  Responses - good and bad - from the list are for the sure
the best way of gaining an "outsider's view".

Bob



Rich Mason Wrote:
>Bob Talbot (sic)  - Doorway
Qkano is beginning to understand how Vlad feels

> For my money, more mysterious than the long-house.   An easy one to
get
> sucked into with the dramatic lighting and good, clean composition.
> Despite that it feels posed, rather than found, but what the heck, I
> still like it.


It's a LONG time ago I took this - in the days of a fully manual film
camera and when I took, I think, less than 2 films during the week's
trip to France.

What I can remember is that I saw the lighting and scene and just
thought it needed a silhouette in the doorway.  So yes, I asked the
first girl passing (there were three in the flat) to stand there.  I
confess - sob sob - it was posed,  so I'd better not post it to
StreetPhoto :o)

It was also a one-off frame, frame number 37, so there were no
alternative takes.  Heck, try getting a "model" to stand still for any
longer without paying them.  As frame 37 the top of the emulsion ran
out to the film leader (ie it was totally black) and I did lose the
top of the near door frame.

How I envisioned it was high-quality colour, well focussed, strong
contrast.  As it turned out it was not only prematurely cropped by the
film leader, it was grossly underexposed and this -  thanks to the
wonders of modern scanners, was all I could salvage from the neg.
Even then I had to discard the blue and green channels which were
almost pure noise.

After all that I still liked it, just it wasn't the picture I set out
to take.  So it was "found" in a way :o)

Thanks for taking the time to comment: I do appreciate your review.


Dave Small Wrote:
Bob Talbot..... Doorway
Bob forgive me for typcasting you as a nature photographer. Lately I
see
many other fascets of your talent. this ethereal image is a good
example of your
versatility. the positioning and lighting is perfect . I love the way
the
beam  of light on the floor fans out to the corners of the frame. I.m
sure your
subject will tresure this.

It's more dabbling than versatility Dave: though there are parts of
style that seem to cross into whatever subject.  I'm glad you liked
the image, I wish I could claim to have envisioned it the way it
turned out :o)  In a way I can credit myself for having created it
from a nothing piece of underexposed ned :o)



Brian van den Broek Wrote:
Bob Talbot - Doorway
Lighting, grain, and apparent extraordinary height conspire to give
this a very X-Files feeling for me. I do think it is a shame that the
top of the door and frame are missing. As it is, I feel both a sense
of truncation and that her head is a bit cramped up there at the top
of the frame.

The comment about Frame 37 covered this in part but I remembered also
that there are two doorways across a hall which I think exaggerates
the clipping.  The shot was taken while kneeling but the girl was not
excessively tall - only 5 foot 6 inches / 8 stone nothing in weight.
The head is cramped.  If I'd been a pro I'd have shot more than the
one frame :o(

Your comments on the grain and lighting are indeed what I'm seeing in
it though.  Maybe I'll try to repeat it someday.



Chris Wrote:
:>Bob Talbot - Doorway
I think this is a brilliant image, it does not matter that the figure
is
blurred nor that the surrounds are similarly out of focus, but the
effect of
the figure against the light is terrific.

THANX Chris!!

We don't often like each other's work this much so I'll treasure this
comment!!!!!!


Sorry if I missed a reviewer: my gut hurts!.

Bob



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