Alan, That's not what I was getting at. Other than process and result, I cannot differentiate between the two. What draws people to art isn't really tangible. It's the production of a piece that reaches people, if only the artist. Craftsmanship, regardless of level, is simply the process to create, or craft should I say? Semantics. --- lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Trevor, > > I may have gotten it wrong but the impression I am > getting from your and > some of the other's comments is that the art gets > better as the crafting > gets better. I presume you are not just talking > about how "realistic" an > artist is able to render something is a measure of > great artistic > merritt, as so many often do. The craft skill of > well thought of > artists throughout time varies from nil to > mind-boggling. i.e. Picasso > was one of the finest draftsmen and Warhol > apparently didn't have any > craft skills. BTW it seems to me those who protest > that both were just > fooling everyone are the greatest admirers of > over-the-top realism. > Certainly you have seen very moving and effective > rough-crafted art > work. And you have no doubt seen highly crafted and > wondrous things > that do not rise above the "gooooolyyyy!" response. > > I saw a show Sunday of the former type that was one > of the best I've > seen in months. The artist, I was told, didn't like > the term "outsider > art" and I sure wouldn't dare call it naive (which > simply means "didn't > go to school") . The artist is quite old and has > seen a few things. > He's self taught, knows what he wants to do with the > materials he uses > for his constructions and mixed-media painting and > is still trying new > ideas. > > AZ > > Build a Lookaround! > The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. > NOW SHIPPING > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: My thoughts about art&craft (RE: PF > Galleries on 05 FEB > > 05) > > From: "trevor cunningham" > <tr_cunningham@xxxxxxxxx> > > Date: Mon, February 07, 2005 1:45 am > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - > Professionals - Students" > > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Ted Williams said it best, "The hardest thing to > do in sports is hit a round ball with a round > stick." Swinging a bat could fall into the craft > category in that the technique can be taught, the > timing can be taught, the stance can be taught...but > the odds that you'll be like Ted Williams at the > plate are slim to none. > > > > I had a roomate in Oregon who made some of the > most unusual/amazing furniture I'd ever seen...I > think I've mentioned him before. Anyway, his > craftsmanship was flawless when it came to wood. I > made the mistake of calling him a carpenter one day, > whereupon, I was corrected that he was an artist > whose current medium happened to be wood. > > > > Crafts on the other hand is skillful > implementation of something. Crafts can > > be taught, crafts result in pleasant and > functional items (both tangible and > > intangible). > > > > I fully disagree. My father was a carpenter. He > and his brothers and my brother have built homes. I > can saw, nail, hell, I might even be able to frame > if given the chance. But I could never be taught to > do what this man can do with a set of tools. Art is > the final product, craft is the process that is > practiced to produce the art. > > > > > > > > > > > > "The optimist believes this is the best of all > possible worlds. > > The pessimist fears it's true" - J Robert > Oppenheimer > > > > http://www.geocities.com/tr_cunningham > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ===== "The optimist believes this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it's true" - J Robert Oppenheimer http://www.geocities.com/tr_cunningham __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
