Well you could try a 3D technique. -----Original Message----- From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peeter Vissak Sent: 19 January 2005 18:14 To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students Subject: RE: PF Galleries on 15 JAN 05 (Chris) > > Peeter Vissak - > > >A bit of old root. Quite a tangle. You could enhance that a lot in >photoshop. Say as an outline abstract. > >Chris. Chris, Thanks for reviewing! I DID enhance it quite strongly in PhotoShop. But I consider it abstract enough to add any mess with special techniques. What I suffer of -- I often cannot emphasize the 3D reality of my subject. I try dozens of different angles (lots of frog-perspective), but detailed subject remains more or less flat. Using these "new-age" 7,9mm-focus digital soapbox lenses everything is even worse. No bokeh, no haze, no distant uncertainty. Feeling myself in need of basics -- F3 and 180/2,8 and a dozen rolls of APX-25. Regards, Peeter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17.01.2005