----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard" : As a lover of photography, and a keen colour practioner it is even more : frustrating because I can only make intelligent guesses as to the : correct colour balance within an image. Generally it is the subtleties : of hue that I miss, e.g. a black lurcher could have a hint of green : within its coat - and I won't see it! A skin tone could be marginally : too yellow or green, and again, I have problems. It makes setting up my : monitor and printer absolute hell!! ah, mebbe here I can make a suggestion - grab a freebie colour picker like 'colorcop' and run the eyedropper across your image to check the absolute rgb values. don't worry, a LOT of people fail to do this and hope that Adobe© get it right for them with some profile or another.. it really benefits to check these values and get them right ;-) it won't help with the printer but at last you'll know the RGB image will be closer to right : Anyone in this forum have any useful suggestions? (Apart from asking my : wife to check!) maybe a densitometer would help with the printing too - another piece of equipment deemed redundant by the advent of modern digital, but still very usefull - and usually cheap : P.S. Happy New year to everyone. same to you and everyone else here too k