Re: re truth and public sentiment

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has anyone seen that show on the bbc caled "fakin'
it"?  quite brilliant i think...waiting to see a
photography episode myself
--- Bob Talbot <BobTalbot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > Seriously, I think an awful lot of
> non-photographers are in fact
> very
> > much more aware of these issues than perhaps you
> realise!
> You used the word "awful" ;o)
> 
> Sounds like you are making a sweeping generalisation
> ... of the kind
> you appear to object to below.
> 
> I can only speak from experience - comparing the
> pictures I've been
> shown over the years by people who consider
> themselves photographers
> and people who just own a camera.  There is a chasm
> between those who
> take pictures for taking pictures sake - the love of
> the image - and
> those for whom the picture is a memento of the
> people and places they
> love.  When they look at a picture they are seeing
> the person
> (probably) rather than really exmining the image.
> 
> 
> > I think that's a very sweeping generalisation and
> neither fair nor
> > accurate. What makes a good photograph can never
> be precisely
> defined -
> You're not saying I said that but on the other hand
> it's presence as a
> non sequiteur seems to imply I might disagree.   I'm
> sure that nowhere
> in the archives could you ever fiond a post in which
> anyone here has
> ever said a good photograph can be "precisely
> defined".
> 
> 
> 
> > if you disagree, tell me how or refer me to some
> examples and give
> your
> > reasons.
> After you, list your reasons to the contrary first
> ...
> 
> 
> 
> > >It's far from academic - in
> scientific/astronomical imaging though
> I would accept that for pure pictorialism it would
> be.
> > Which is what I was referring to.
> But you didn't say so: you put in another of those
> "sweeping
> generalisations"  <I agree: it is a bogus issue>
> without defining what
> areas of photography to which it applied.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > And certainly the vast majority of
> > photographers do not have access to the sort of
> equipment  (or do
> not
> > need?) needed for such technical specialisms.
> Err, a digital or film camera?
> Well, in digital maybe a camera that allows access
> to the raw (really
> raw unprocessed responses from the Bayer grid)
> 
> 
> 
> > >Take any digital image.
> > >Sharpen (/unsharp mask) it.
> > >The image contains less information.
> > >Simply fact - it's a one-way process
> > Only if you don't keep original files surely or
> don't use layers!
> Only if you have acces to REAL raw files, not the
> ones some cameras
> produce which have already had a degree of
> sharpening applied ....
> 
> 
> 
> > Perhaps I'd beter join the great
> > unwashed and continue to worry about my image
> content and appearance
> > rather than what are (for me) theoretical
> concerns!
> If they don't interest you ... don't worry about
> them.
> 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 


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