<<Think of them not as "rules", but as ideas. <<The idea of putting your horizon round 1/3 from the top or bottom may not be revolutionary, but it has helped many people on the way to having their own ideas.>> Brian Indeed: semantics. Beginners instinctively place the horizon dead central in the viewfinder. The rule/idea/concept/guideline of not placing it so is one of the first things they are taught. "Place it on the top or bottom 1/3rd" (rule of thirds) is a good starting point. later they might experiment, giving 90:10 ratios to exaggerate the sky or even, as I favour, cut the sky out altogether. The important thing is that they think about where they want the horizon. Then, when they become really experienced and start to do panoramas (well, stitched ones anyway) they have to unlean it all again and remember "whatever you do, keep the horizon in the middle of the viewfinder :o) Bob "There is not enough darkness in the world to extinguish the light of a single candle"